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June 30, 2004

Question re: still-financed car sale ()

by fluffy at 9:33 PM
Hey, um, when I bought my car I always assumed that I'd just own it until it was no longer functional or until my needs outgrew it or whatever. But if I do end up going to NYC, I'll probably want to sell my car — but I still have a while left on my car loan, and as a result I don't have the actual title, just a warranty title.

When I sold my previous car, I just signed the title over to the buyer, but since I don't actually hold the title (the lender does), I don't seem to have any means of doing this.

So, does anyone have any experience with selling a car which is still being financed? Or should I look into some way of paying off the loan before trying to sell the car? (I already know that refinancing isn't an option since there's less than $7500 left on the loan...)

(Also, I don't need a lecture about the evil of loans and buying new cars and so on. I've always overpaid on my loan payments, and didn't expect to be selling the car this soon. And hey, I've still come out ahead compared to leasing or trying to maintain my previous car until it croaks, which it probably would have done by now anyway.)

Comments

#2901 06/30/2004 11:40 pm
Here's another idea... I could drive out there (which also would make it easier/cheaper to bring my musical instruments and the computers I want to keep and so on), garage it until I can pay the loan off in total, and then sell it there.

But selling a manual-transmission car in NYC is probably not going to be terribly easy.

Hmf.
#2902 Nemesis Destiny (unregistered) 07/01/2004 02:04 am ?
What make/model/year is it?
#2903 Fomer Banker (unregistered) 07/01/2004 07:34 am Car Loan
Well, the best thing to do is to have the buyer make the check payable to you AND the bank/finance company. If you're dealing with a local institution this is generally pretty easy to do. Just drop by your local branch office and present them with the check (cashier's, certified or money order- I'd recommend against personal check due to clearing issues; I guess cash works too...). If it's sufficient to satisfy the loan they'll mark the title as paid - or send it to the appropriate state authority for release of lien.

If you've financed through a non-local institution, well then you've got to deal with the mail, etc. Give them a call, find out what the payoff amount is for a specific date in the future - not for today as it's unlikely they'll receive your payment today. Ask what the "per diem interest charge" is (this is the amount of interest that accrues on the unpaid principal balance daily), what their payoff requirements are (certified check, money order, etc.) and exactly where the payment should be sent. Ask if they need any information from you: the buyer's address for mailing the title, perhaps? Send the payment via overnight delivery - or USPS express mail - just make sure you get delivery confirmation. If received before certain time (usually 2 or 3 pm) banks are required to post the payment on they day the funds are received. If not, they can delay posting till the next day which could cost you and extra day's worth of interest. The posting time should be spelled out in your loan contract. With the payment include one day's worth of interest accrual (the per diem) for each day you expect the funds to be in transit. It's better to pay too much and have the finance company refund you the difference than to pay too little which only slows the process down. No self-respecting banker is going to release their lien on a car until their loan is paid in full. I've had the unfortunate pleasure to work with some bankers lacking in self-respect and have seen this happen, but professional institutions wouldn't dream of it.

If you're a member of AAA (or if the buyer is) they might be able to help you with the transaction - it wouldn't hurt to call. Hope this helps.
#2906 07/01/2004 08:25 am
Nemesis Destiny
What make/model/year is it?


2002 Toyota Echo.

Former Banker
stuff


Holy cow.

The institution is non-local (Toyota's own financing had the best deal at the time, oddly enough) but that process still seems to rely on the goodwill of the buyer and knowing a lot of stuff ahead of time. I don't even know if I'll be selling my car yet!

I think the drive-to-New-York-and-sell-it-there idea is looking better. Though then there might be some really odd tax crap going on. Argh.

The other idea I had was to use a 0% APR cash advance from my credit card to pay off the loan (which would cost like $50 in finance charges), sell the car normally, and then pay the credit card back off. I was hoping to avoid getting that credit card involved, but it seems like it just might be the least-crappy way.
#2909 07/01/2004 12:48 pm storage
I hear storing cars in New York is expensive.
#2911 07/01/2004 02:20 pm
It is, but many apartments do come with parking space (depending on the area), and assuming I stay at a hotel for the first week or so that I'm there, that'd cover parking as well.
#2912 Amy (unregistered) 07/01/2004 08:01 pm
I like Toyotas. They hold up quite nicely. By the way, I saw you're "register (you know you want to, Amy)". Hate to tell you this but, I'm most likely not going to register. I'm satisfied with my journal now.
#2913 07/01/2004 08:29 pm
That's to register your username for comment posting.