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April 2, 2005

RIP, Karol Wojtyla ()

by fluffy at 3:27 PM
Karol Wojtyla (a.k.a. Pope John Paul II) died about an hour ago. According to the news, he actually refused medical treatment for this last bout, and just wanted to be closer to God at this point. So I can't help but feel some last-minute respect for him.

Comments

#5164 Ali 04/02/2005 10:39 pm
The main problem with a freshly-dead Pope is that they'll always, always, go get another one.

Oh well. Maybe they'll try to preserve him cryogenically. Yay Popesicles!
#5165 Vladinator 04/03/2005 10:49 am Hmmm.
Ali
The main problem with a freshly-dead Pope is that they'll always, always, go get another one.

Oh well. Maybe they'll try to preserve him cryogenically. Yay Popesicles!


As a Catholic, I find your comment offensive. Pope John Paul II did MANY great things during his 26 years as the Pope. He deserves some respect.
#5166 fluffy 04/03/2005 11:25 am
He did many great things (even before his papacy, like operating an anti-Nazi cell in the Polish resistance etc.), but he also did many dogmatic things like essentially promote teenage pregnancy and the spread of AIDS in South Africa by being so vehemently against any form of birth control or protection from STDs and also galvanizing people against homosexuals and so on, and that's all that a lot of people remember him for.
#5174 Ali 04/03/2005 09:53 pm Re: Hmmm.
Vladinator
As a Catholic, I find your comment offensive. Pope John Paul II did MANY great things during his 26 years as the Pope. He deserves some respect.

As an atheist in an infuriatingly religious world, I find Catholicism offensive. To me, religion is essentially damaged thinking.

And the dead are dead. They have no use for respect, or anything else.
#5175 fluffy 04/03/2005 10:02 pm
No, but the other people who cared about the dead do need the respect for the person.

I'll be interested to see what Randi's column says about the Pope this week.
#5176 Ali 04/03/2005 10:06 pm
fluffy

I'll be interested to see what Randi's column says about the Pope this week.


Something relatively balanced and probably with a little praise in it, I expect. I haven't got much incentive to sugarcoat, and have a noticeably dimmer view of religion and spirituality than I've gathered from Swift.
#5186 Neillparatzo 04/05/2005 05:23 am
My personal take is that the Pope dying is just non-news... he'd been so ill for so long.

And, someone just as charismatic and Catholic will replace him.

And pretty soon, life will be back to normal for Catholics, and non-Catholics.

Nothing to see here.